Steve Wozniak, perhaps the last of an old guard of tech guys who generally seem pretty chill, does not think particularly highly of Elon Musk or Donald Trump. The guy credited with sparking the personal computer revolution told CNBC during an interview that Musk and Trump are bullies who are taking a sledgehammer to the federal government.

Speaking on the sidelines of MWC 2025, Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak also lamented how big tech companies “own our lives”.

DOGE, an initiative launched by US President Donald Trump, aims to optimise federal agencies and slash administrative costs. But Wozniak argued that such reforms should be done “more surgically, with a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer.

Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple, spoke with CNBC about what tech billionaire Elon Musk is doing with the U.S.'s new Department of Government Efficiency and weighed in on Tesla's product evolution.

Steve Jobs receives a lot of credit for the incredible things he accomplished at Apple, and rightfully so. But not as many people give Steve Wozniak the credit he deserves for actually building the computers that made Apple a viable company to begin with.

Apple co-founder slammed the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, over mass job cuts at various government agencies.